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Poster: PeaceMakerr Date: May 16, 2013 3:22pm
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Atchive.org is widely used by terrorists, do you know that?

Mr. Aibek,
we are talking here on certain materials , not Muslims ideas in life or women, we are talking about people who are willing to make use of the cyberspace to exchange terrorist methods, these people have the following things:
1- They don't know English, so banning the Arabic content for them will have a big impact on them.
2- They use slow internet lines to upload their materials, so deleting their videos will have a big impacts on them also because they spent lots of time preparing and uploading these videos on slow internet connections.
3- they can't get their own servers to operate their websites, not even in their own countries in Iraq or Afghanistan or Somalia, because the states there won't allow that to happen and they don't have the freedom they are having it online, so shutting down their websites which are hosted in the USA or Germany, will leave them with no other choice to operate.

4-but shutting their websites will not be a good options, but to delete the materials they upload on the internet is the best thing to do right now, because they can't upload to their own websites and they use youtube and Archive.org to upload their materials.

so there are certain things we can do to fight them and prevent them from spreading their ideas to other people


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Poster: aibek Date: May 16, 2013 9:21pm
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Archive.org is widely used by terrorists, do you know that?

Hello PeaceMakerr

First of all note that I am not an admin, so this discussion is "academic". However, since admins allow these videos to exist (as you say; I have not checked), I suppose some of the issues I point to are relevant.

I am sure there is no bandwidth issue. (Because if bandwidth while downloading is no constraint, bandwidth while uploading would not be a constraint either.) Nor can the issue be that their own governments will shut it down, but US websites would not. (Because if the governments can shut down the websites, they can block access to the US websites too. In Youtube’s case, they can demand that a particular video be not accessible to IPs belonging to their countries.) Anyway, why do you think videos are so important? Did politically motivated violence not happen before the internet was born? (or, for that matter, before photography was invented?) And who is to say that high-resolution videos are better than low-resolution videos for propaganda?

If “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” (and I agree), how much more valid is: “ideas don’t kill people, people kill people”. (Exhorting others to violence is another issue altogether, but that is illegal anyway.)

This post was modified by aibek on 2013-05-17 04:21:16

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Poster: PeaceMakerr Date: May 17, 2013 2:11pm
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Archive.org is widely used by terrorists, do you know that?

What we are dealing with here are people with limited knowledge, they are the ones who are rejected by their community and all they have left is to "satisfy Allah" by killing and then satisfy themselves, these are the terrorists,
we are not dealing with smart people, terrorists are stupid people who did not succeed in anything else in life.
and i think that these kind of people are easy to defeat by cutting the knowledge that is necessary to help them refine their terrorist skills. that is all the world has to do to prevent more and more violent by them.
and videos are important to them because they can't read ! they are so stupid to read.
and the only space they have to meet and arrange their propaganda right now is the cyberspace, so fighting them here will leave them with no space to meet.

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Poster: biebershine Date: May 16, 2013 6:09pm
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Atchive.org is widely used by terrorists, do you know that?

yes, i knew that.